Saturday, November 6, 2010

Nationality versus citizenship

And here we are again!

One more Friday and one more topic to add. Is there anything else to add to what was said in the classroom? Because I am still not convinced that if a person feels, for example, Italian, as Tatev fairly stated, the person is therefore Italian. :)

8 comments:

  1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Delshad

    This link is about Jimmy Delshad
    an Iranian-American politician in the state of California.
    He became Mayor of Beverly Hills on March 21, 2007 and again on March 16, 2010.

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  2. Thank you Bahamin!

    Doesn't his name suggest that he is American and not Iranian? Am I wrong?

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  3. My dear colleges I would like to mention once again my opinion.

    I completely disagree with Anna and Tatevik.

    There are same nations who lose their statehood. What do you think in which name we will named their nationality? Do you think that they lose their nationality with statehood? Is it possible? For example, Kurds, Tallishs, Scots, Basques

    The nationality is the quality of belonging nation, in the sense of group united by various strong ties. Among the usual ties are membership in the same general community, common customs, culture, tradition, history and language. No one of this factors is essential. Nationality is does not necessarily denote membership within a specific political state.

    This is the political explanation of the ward “nationality”. I am glad that my opinion is coincide
    with scientists.

    I look forward for reading your new arguments.

    Voski

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  4. 1. people having common origins or traditions and often comprising a nation; "immigrants of the same nationality often seek each other out"; "such images define their sense of nationality"
    2. the status of belonging to a particular nation by birth or naturalization
    wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

    Which means that naturalization, i.e. when you go to a different country, live there for a certain period of time and then get their passport (apply for naturalization) also can give you the nationality that you belong to.

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  5. Voskehat, for example when you say the word ԾՆՆԴԱՎԱՅՐ, what do you understand? The place where you was born, yeah..?
    If you was born in Italy, for exmaple, what will you say??? I'm italian... How can you change the place, where you were born??? Your nationality is italian. You can say I'm italian, with armenian roots. That's all...

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  6. Tatevik jan, I didn't say about changing of birth place. If you born in Italy, it only means that your birth place is Italy, nothing more. Nationality is quite different thing!
    ԾՆՆԴԱՎԱՅՐ means the place whete you born.

    Definition of nationality are.
    1. national character
    2.the status of belonging to a particular nation by origin, birth, or naturalization.
    3. a people having common origins or traditions and often constituting a nation.
    4. existence as a politically autonomous entity; national independence.
    5. Nationalism.

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  7. http://auto.am/index.php?al=dealer
    You can find info for car prices.

    Sorry but I didn't find any information about english spoken Armenians.

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  8. One of the meanings of naturalization (Voskehat's point 2) is "the proceeding whereby a foreigner is granted citizenship" which means that even if a person applies for a citizenship, he can change his nationality having spent in the country some time.
    Albert, you don't need to find English spoken Armenians, it is only your opinion that matters.
    Thanks for car info! :)

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